Arthur Brown Not Enrolled at Miami
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 3:54 PM EST
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According to UM's sports information deparment, Brown is not enrolled in classes this semester and has returned home to Wichita, Kansas. "It is unknown if he'll be returning, but he has not requested a transfer," UM SID Mark Pray told our Susan Miller Degnan moments ago.
...He came to UM from Wichita East High as the top prospect in the country according to Scout.com. He was selected a Parade All-American and named to USA Today's All-American team. Despite starring in high school, Brown had trouble picking up more complex defenses in college. Junior Sean Spence told me earlier this season Brown had trouble recognizing when the run was coming and when the pass was coming and was often slow to react.
Now, the question becomes will Brown return?
Eh, let's not hold our breaths. Early buzz say his departure was "not football-related," but who knows?
Does it matter?
This isn't a slam on Arthur Brown -- he had, after all, two more years to figure college football out -- but what's more important than star ratings and Parade noms is what you do with it. I'd be tinkled pink if Arthur Brown came back and morphed into The Return of Ray Lewis; I'd be equally pleased if he just tried his hardest and got a degree in the meantime. But I also hope he does whatever's best for him. Kids transfer from programs all the time, and there's nothing wrong with that -- unless it's Sean Spence.
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TGB
Nice pick up on this – you beat me to it. This does not sit well with me because it is another highly touted 5 star recruit that doesn’t pan out. Yet Romeo and Cook received tons of playing time. Something is not right. We can’t even hang on to our #2 and #3 Q’s and our no. 1 has to play all season with a hurt thumb.
According to people in practice
he wouldn’t have panned out anywhere else, either. The light either goes on or it doesn’t. And he had zero business playing over Romeo and Cook, unfortunate though they may be. You can’t ignore the difference between high school football in Kansas and big-time college football (our schedule was, even if we weren’t that year) for touting. I hear what you’re saying, but Sean Spence played all year as a freshman so I don’t think you can make that Cook and Romeo were playing beyond any reason other than absolute desperation thanks to a giant failure in recruiting the years between.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I might give you late-season Javarris on that argument
even though Berry’s blocking is lacking. But on the other hand, I also don’t mind our coach positioning our seniors for the draft so long as the game’s in hand.
I just don’t think you can point to a kid who looks lost on the field as any sign there’s something sinister afoot.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
game is in hand????
the year I am talking about we were 7-5 or something. My point is when we are down and out put the kid in there and let him go. Who cares? That G-Tech game with Romeo hanging on the hand warmer – at some point a kid has got to get in there. I would rather see that than Cook and Romeo in there because they were seniors.
All I am saying it is looks like it is becoming cyclical. And LOL a coach is never going to say it is on the coach if a kid underperforms – it will always be on the kid. That is just human nature
never said sinister
but it looks like a pattern is\could\may be developing. Jacory is what now a junior? And our backup is WHO???? You cannot tell me that we couldn’t have used Taylor Cook to relieve Jacory at some point? Maybe he would have stunk but maybe not.
Yeah, I guess I figure the year you’re talking about RS was just trying to make it at un-horrible as possible; pretty much a lost cause considering the depth chart. It’s one thing if you have a Julio Jones playing with a decent supporting cast, it’s another to put a totally confused kid into a situation where he’s got little experienced supporting cast. So you put in experience, even if it’s no better. Spence is one thing, but from everything I know AB was another. His reputation was basically found to mean nothing, which I blame entirely on Kansas being shitty and I’m sure you’d agree with me on that point!
“Sinister” was just my little joke. I agree it’s worth keeping an eye on, but it seems like our recent transfers were kids that there’s just nothing to be done about. And I think people — not you — but people don’t remember that several kids transfer from every program every year. Even Miami.
If it had been a player contributing — Marve is a special case of spoiled asshole — but a regular player regularly contributing — I’d be fully on board with you. But all we have with Brown is a hypothetical and little to back it up. But in general, I’m not opposed to throwing someone in there to see what sticks. In the case of that season, I dunno. It was a few plays away from being at least 8-4, and that’s worth shooting for if you’re RS.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
something
doesn’t fit to me for some reason. Not just AB. Or Marve. The two QB’s who took off. That made me pick my head up and notice. I would have liked to have seen a 100% Taylor Cook rather than a 70% J12 and hurt hand.
I know kids transfer. Dunno if it is Kansas. Some don’t make it up the next level. Same with college to pro – Jamarcus Russell comes to mind
Yeah
Taylor Cook would’ve come in handy.
And 3? Totally notable, even if one should never ever have been here.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
uh guys
jacory wasn’t playing his best with his hand but i can guarantee that you would not want to see taylor cook on the field, even had 150%
where did he even transfer to? he’s not starting there
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
baylor. and he couldn't have, thanks to tranfer rules.
I mean, I’m not sweatin’ him, but no one wanted to see ethnic sands either.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
DID YOU JUST SPEAK ILL OF KEN DORSEY?
DEAD TO ME.
DEAD.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
more of a “i support anyone named ethnic” stance than anything
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
well
javarris also had a good year as a freshman. i think the GT game is a bad example tho because of the nature of their offense. if arthur was having trouble mentally then that probably wasn’t the game for him. and i don’t really get the argument about taylor cook, i mean they can’t hold the kid hostage at school! he knew he was never going to play unless jacory got hurt, so you can’t blame him.
anyway, no one in recent memory that has transferred away has ever really amounted to anything, save maybe shawnbrey mcneil, but he was in a system that valued a small back like him and i don’t think we lost anything with his departure.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
the list of people who've left is hysterical.
not a one I’d take back seeing what they did elsewhere.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
alternately
the transfers in have been awesome.
I think we’re just magic :)
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Also
Manny said that at the Champs Bowl AB was not hanging with the team at downtown Disney and he never recalled that happening before
welp
naturally the one mega-five star out of state recruit that we actually get ends up being awful. obviously this won’t hurt the team that much, as if arthur couldn’t get on the field by now then he was never going to play, esp considering how the young guys played in the past two years. he was never going to beat out ramon/spence/mccarthy/futch, and if we need depth… well i’m sure tyrone cornelius & kevin nelson are just as good at this point.
if arthur is considering coming back i think they should tell him that he has a better chance of making the NFL from being at miami — even if it’s playing special teams — than he does at butler. (never mind a degree from miami!) i mean, if they can get sam sheilds looks at the nfl and can get spencer adkins drafted at all… well i think that’s better than you can say for a DII school.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 4:55 PM EST reply actions
I'd have a problem with them nudging him out for space.
A Symonette, no. But a rising junior with two years left? That would not be okay.
But of course, no evidence of that.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
yeah arthur is valuable enough on special teams
to warrant a spot on the team
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
that and it'd be totally unfair and horrifying
you offer, kid signs, he gets four years. period.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I thought
scholarships are renewed\reviewed every year? Butch Davis was doing it last season I know for sure. .
I think you just made my argument :)
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Some lady that boards her horse where I do has a son that played for the tar Heels and he was told before last season that it would not be renewed. She was TICKED
Honestly, I think it's unethical.
I’m fine with it if a kid’s done four years. There’s no reason to carry a fifth year senior who’ll never see the field and had time to complete his education. I’m fine with explaining to an upperclassman he’ll never play and giving him a choice to go elsewhere if he wants. But pulling a scholly when you asked a kid to commit to you and he’s not in any trouble/done with school? Wrong.
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
re: romeo and cook
romeo didn’t even really play that much. the one big game was against GT and he was terrible, and i think it was good to have glenn cook on the field on a randy phillips elder teacher tip.
& it’s not like randy didn’t put bad seniors in the doghouse! iirc lance leggett got passed up by benji/aldarius/collier etc etc (unless i have my years incorrect). also, chavez grant NEVER played this year aside from like fsu, even with as bad as shields played at times. so i think if arthur was able he would’ve played.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions
this team is like
they picked 10 guys who have never played together and didn’t allow them to warm up. THEY CAN’T EVEN THROW A PASS IN TO DWAYNE COLLINS. i feel bad for durand scott. i want to personally apologize to him.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
You are right
that is exactly what it looks like. But why? Coaching or are they that young in places?
tonight i realized
that the whole season i kept screaming “RUN SOME DAMN PLAYS” but tonight i realized that the problem is that frank is insistent that “we need to establish dwayne collins,” and i can’t remember how many times that amounted to nothing. pretty much every game. i think it breeds unaggression at the beginning of games, which is why you see the starts on the road that they’ve had this year.
and i also think they play way too many players in too quick of a rotation. i think they need to play durand scott, garrius adams, malcom grant, reggie johnson a lot more, and i think they just need to let them play. encourage driving and kicking. dews is the upper classman worth a shit.
that’s pretty much how i break it down. idk. this team is talented, by they’re lost.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
i think this mike patrick quote sums up the season
dwayne collins put back
“And Dwayne Collins makes his presence felt. He has four points.”
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Well
at least they made it a game. They did have their chances. Missed opportunities though. Yea I am really grasping here.
luckily
wake forest wasn’t shit-hot like VT was up in blacksburg, because we played that bad in the first half (started off with 2 FGs, 9 TOs and 10 fouls [SERIOUSLY]). so they allowed them to hang around in the first half and then they made a mini-run in the second, which they always play better in the second half. the rotation was all fucked in the end, but whatever.
dwayne collins is a lie.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Feb 2, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Do you realize
at this time in
2008 – we were wondering about Arthur Brown
2009 – we were wondering about Bryce Brown
2010 – back to Arthur Brown
Yes.
And it makes me want to kill myself.
(not really but jeez)
by The Great Barstoolio on Feb 2, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
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